Does self-existent mean unbegotten

Posted Jan 24, 2011 by Corey McCain in The Son of God Hits: 4,913


 Does self-existent mean unbegotten?

If any should object to this most natural conclusion, on the ground that the one here speaking calls Himself "I AM THAT I AM," the self-existent One-Jehovah-we have only to remind him that the Father hath given to the Son to have life in Himself (John 5:26), that Christ asserted the same thing of Himself when He said, "Before Abraham was, I am" (John 8:5, 6); for which supposed blasphemy the Jews attempted to stone Him; and that by the prophet He is most plainly called Jehovah, in the following passage:- 

"Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In His days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely; and this is His name whereby He shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS;" literally, "Jehovah our righteousness." Jer. 23:5, 6. {January 1, 1891 EJW, PTUK 9.9}

 

Christ ‘is [sic] in the bosom of the Father;’ being by nature of the very substance of God, and having life in Himself, He is properly called Jehovah, the self-existent One, and is thus styled in Jer. 23:56, where it is said that the righteous Branch, who shall execute judgment and justice in the earth, shall be known by the name of Jehovah-tsidekenu—THE LORD, OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.” (Christ and His Righteousness. p23,24. 1890. E J Waggoner.)
It will readily be seen that the whole virtue of baptism lies in the self-existent power of Christ,-that He could lay down His life, and take it up again. {November 28, 1901 EJW, PTUK 757.9}

 

That is to say, the almost universal tendency is to eliminate God as Creator, and practically to deify creation, making it self supporting, which in reality means self-existent, although few stop to think that the terms mean the same thing. {June 20, 1901 EJW, PTUK 385.2} This should help us understand what self-existent means.

 

Waggoner believed in the same begotten Christ that I do. Few quotes from Waggoner in his later years to show he still believed in a begotten Christ when he wrote those:

 

He was begotten, not created. He is of the substance of the Father, so that in his very nature he is God; and since that is so "it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell." Col. 1:19. Or, as the apostle states in Col. 2:9, "For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily." It would be difficult to frame language more expressive of the divine nature. {October 1, 1889 EJW, BEST 298.2}

 

A Priest Because a Son. -"Christ glorified not Himself to be made an High Priest; but He that said unto Him, Thou art My Son, to-day have I begotten Thee. As He saith also in another place, Thon art a priest for ever, after the order of Melchisedek." That is to say, the begetting of Christ as Son, constituted Him priest after the order of Melchisedek. He is both King and Priest, and the kingship and priesthood are co-existent. As the Son of God He must be King, and so His Priesthood is necessarily royal. {June 4, 1903 EJW, PTUK 358.8}

 

To say Ellen White was trinitarian because she said Christ was the self-existent Son of God just isn’t true as you have just seen even Waggoner who believed Christ was begotten also believed He was self-existent.