The Eternity Thing

Posted Jul 28, 2012 by Ruben Olschewsky in General Hits: 1,883

I am writing this blog as I come across this issue often in talking with friends and hearing others talk about the issues relating to the begotten nature of the Son of God.

I do not come with the intention to teach, win an argument or any other ego related agenda. I come with the motive to share my thoughts and pray that they may help some who, like me, have wrestled long with the "eternity thing".

Firstly I would like to look at Genesis 1:1. It says "In the Beginning...." the word beginning denotes a start. Now as we continue through the bible we note that time is calculated in generations or lineages and later on in successions of rulers and kingdoms. But when look in back before creation mention is made only of events and not time periods.

I believe that no mention of time was necessary as eternal life affords no such dimension. time is only of relevance when there is a start and end to it. Will I be counting my birthdays when I am 6 billion years old???? I doubt it. We would not have the need to count the years because it bears no reference when life is eternal.

 

There is another reference I wish to draw upon before I share more.

2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

 

In order for one day to be as a thousand years and a thousand years as a day, time must be of no importance to God because He is not limited by it. As He is the source of Life, He has no need to worry about it “running out”.

 

All created beings not subject to sin experience eternal life, such as the angels in heaven would have no need for a time dimension.

 

Creation is accounted as the beginning of time because of the fall of man. After the fall, man was not permitted to get access to the tree and was subject to deterioration and death. Hence, man as well as the rest of creation under the curse of sin is subject to a beginning and an end.

 

We generally define time along a line drawn on a page or in some way graphically illustrated. This is because a line drawn on a page and time have two very important characteristics in common, a start and a finish. Pretty simple really.

 

We depict life that way, our day that way, meetings and work that way. All things around us consist of a beginning and an end…… except for God and His Kingdom.

 

When we look at eternity we tend to look at it from the human perspective, well, I know I do. This problem I have encountered with this perspective is that is automatically introduces the limitations of human dimensions into this perspective. Eternity is not of human origin and thus is not subject to human constraints.

 

When I look at eternity I look at it trying to avoid the use of a line. I’ll explain why. Because a line has a beginning and an end it is measurable. It is considered a vector of sorts (having direction and speed). This would mean that no matter how big the line is, it will always remain measureable. Thus a line cannot under no circumstances be used in association with eternity. But a line can be used for the period of time defined by the word of God which is the plan of salvation. Thus the picture would look something like this;

 

ETERNITY CONTINUUM-TIME-ETERNITY CONTINUUM

 

To clarify, the eternity continuum is not interrupted by time but has time superimposed upon it for the duration of the plan of salvation.

 

 Eternity is the absence of time. Thus it cannot be said “at some time in the past…”.

The way the bible describes it is as follows :

 

Proverbs 8:22-24           The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:

 

Notice how the term before is used? Hence sequence is established without the need for time. This is because time requires coordinates and the term before does not provide adequate coordinates to establish time because there is no time in eternity.

 

Why bring this up?

Well I had came across a question that went something like this:

 

Jesus Christ could not be begotten because if He came out of the Father that means that at some time He was not and also means that at some time before this event the Father was not actually a Father!!!!

Do you see the dilemma? The problem is time!!!! Eternity is the absence of time. Thus because Jesus Christ the Son of the Living God came forth from the Father in eternity past, there was never a TIME when Christ was not because there is no TIME in eternity. Additionally, if there was never a TIME when Christ was not then there was never a TIME when the Father was not a Father.

 

This is not fanciful argument. It is as real as gravity is to us as humans on this planet. While on earth we are subject to its physical laws. Leave this planet and the laws change. I may not understand that but that doesn’t change the truth because truth is not relative but absolute.

 

Likewise time is a dimension on this planet because of what took place here. We are subject to time because of the fall of Adam and Eve. Once the judgment is finished and we receive our eternal reward, we will once again take our place amongst the countless creation of God living in eternity and then we will understand more fully what it is like to live without the constraints of time.

 

I pray I have not confused the issue further. Blessings to you all my brothers and sisters.

 

May Our heavenly Father be praised